This is an audio-only version of a talk given by Julia Neuberger at the Courtauld Gallery in London. If you want to transfer this to an mp3 player, click on the download mp3 link above. (Mac users - hold down the CTRL key when you click on the link.) If you are using an iPod with a screen, a reproduction of Camille Pissarro's Lordship Lane Station will be displayed.

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Recorded as part of Picture This at Somerset House – Writers' talks in the Courtauld Gallery. Initiated by Ruth Padel.

Lordship Lane Station, Camille Pissarro, 1871 © The Samuel Courtauld Trust/The Courtauld Gallery